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Community Meeting 2012-02-28

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IRC chat today! Join us Feb 28, 11am California time, 19:00GMT, for our weekly setiQuest IRC chat at irc://irc.freenode.net/#setiquest
Or in a browser: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=setiquest
Lets make an agenda. I'll start with my suggestions, please feel free to reply and add your own.

  1. Website issues, spam, any design suggestions or topics?
  2. Google Summer of Code - we may not be participating this year.
  3. SetiLive starting soon. Will discuss.
  4. We need further discussion of the setiQuest goals. 

..Other topics?




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[11:00am] jrseti_: Hello

[11:00am] jrseti_: Hello all!
[11:01am] jrseti_: Time for the setiquest IRC chat
[11:01am] moinkers joined the chat room.
[11:01am] jrseti_: See http://setiquest.org/forum/topic/community-meeting-2012-02-28
[11:01am] sigblips: Hello everybody.
[11:02am] jrseti_: Anything to add to tthe agenda
[11:02am] sigblips: Nope.
[11:02am] jrseti_: OK then
[11:03am] jrseti_: 1) Website issues
[11:03am] jrseti_: Is the spam continuing on the Wiki?
[11:03am] jrseti_: Or at least, is the level of spam constant?
[11:04am] sigblips: Yes it is. I'm swimming in a sea of wiki spam. Please make it stop. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_anonymou...
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[11:04am] jrseti_: OK, I'll give some attention to this during the week.
[11:05am] jrseti_: Doesn't look fun!
[11:05am] jrseti_: dk3232 hello! I'm sorry - still thinking of a C++ project
[11:06am] sigblips: I'm blocking about 10 IP addresses a day and deleting almost 20 wiki spams/day.
[11:06am] jrseti_: Sigblips: That is no good! I'll get on it
[11:07am] jrseti_: Small group today. Jrseti,moinkers,dk3232 and Sigblips.
[11:08am] jrseti_: 2) GSoC
[11:08am] jrseti_: dk3232: see agenda at http://setiquest.org/forum/topic/community-meeting-2012-02-28
[11:08am] jrseti_: I think we are not going to participate this year in GSoC.
[11:09am] MichaelMor joined the chat room.
[11:09am] jrseti_: (do I hear Sigblips cheering?)
[11:09am] jrseti_: Hello Michael
[11:09am] dk3232: so there will be coding project for us around the summer time?
[11:09am] MichaelMor: hi. sorry for delay. new software
[11:09am] sigblips: I'm not cheering but I do think it is best for the project. There is always next year's GSoC.
[11:10am] jrseti_: No paid coding projects this summer.
[11:11am] jrseti_: Sorry!
[11:11am] dk3232: any volunteer coding projects
[11:12am] jrseti_: Yes. See http://setiquest.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[11:12am] jrseti_: In the "Open Source Projects" section. If you can come up with a good idea, let me know!
[11:13am] jrseti_: A good general one is "Use the data feeds at http://setiquest.info to create a compelling website, website widget, or HTML mobile app."
[11:13am] dk3232: oh i saw a thing on the forum about a STEM game
[11:14am] sigblips: Yeah I read that too. What is it? Can anyone explain?
[11:14am] sigblips: http://setiquest.org/forum/topic/national-stem-video-game-challenge
[11:14am] jrseti_: Yes, but the deadline is near. A good thing to do about that is to try to come up with an idea for next year's competition
[11:15am] jrseti_: Maybe a group could get together on setiquest.org and come up with an idea, maybe something in HTML5?
[11:16am] sigblips: So is it a game or is it educational? Or is it both?
[11:16am] jrseti_: At least educational.
[11:17am] jrseti_: It is only open to US citizens and residents
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[11:18am] jrseti_: So this is a bit limiting since a lot of the programmers that have passed through setiquest.org seem to be non-US
[11:19am] jrseti_: 3) SetiLive!
[11:20am] jrseti_: SetiLive is going "live" on March 6, or so I am told.
[11:20am] sigblips: That is next week Tuesday.
[11:21am] MichaelMor: It will be interesting to see if they have made the waterfall displays any prettier
[11:21am] jrseti_: Yes. We have been working furiously getting it functional. All is well. Jill is at a TED event (I think) promoting it now.
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[11:22am] sigblips: I'm interested in how they are doing the classifications.
[11:22am] jrseti_: MichaelMor: I think they will be tweaking the look of the waterfalls over the Month of March. So when it goes live and you do not like the waterfalls - let us/them know
[11:24am] jrseti_: Next IRC chat we'll talk about SETILive - maybe all can take a look at it then.
[11:24am] jrseti_: On setiquest.org we will change the main area on the front page to direct people to the setilive site.
[11:25am] sigblips: Like a complete re-design or are you just planning on highlighting it?
[11:27am] jrseti_: Just new content in the main area.
[11:27am] jrseti_: http://setiquest.org/content/setiquest-program
[11:28am] sigblips: I never knew that page even existed! Are hubcaps considered space junk?
[11:29am] jrseti_: Yes they are.
[11:29am] jrseti_: That page it the one that shows up in the main area of the main setiquest.org page
[11:29am] MichaelMor: Are we SURE they are hubcaps?
[11:30am] jrseti_: I think the artist was quite sure
[11:30am] sigblips: I thought they looked a bit familiar. (:
[11:31am] jrseti_: I've asked the setilive people for suggestions about the text I should include - as well as logos and pics to make it look pretty
[11:31am] khrm: where is it? I can't find any hubcaps.
[11:32am] jrseti_: http://setiquest.org/content/kozmo-cosmos-day-17
[11:32am] sigblips: What about setiQuest Explorer? Will next week be time to retire it? Or should we just like it continue on?
[11:32am] sigblips: "let it" continue
[11:33am] jrseti_: We are retiring it. Francis, the guy that made it for us, is supposed to close it down. Was supposed to be weeks ago
[11:33am] sigblips: It is still serving waterfall images.
[11:34am] jrseti_: Yes, I'll pop him an email now.
[11:35am] MichaelMor: Well, let him leave it up, no? Is there any harm?
[11:35am] jrseti_: I just sent him an email.
[11:36am] jrseti_: MichaelMor: The harm is that people get confused and think it is an active program that we are actually using.
[11:36am] sigblips: Just checked the monitoring stats. I'm guessing about 15 - 20 work sets a day which is about the same traffic it has been getting for months.
[11:37am] jrseti_: That is actually quite a bit
[11:37am] jrseti_: considering the amount of promotion we are giving it!
[11:37am] MichaelMor: Okay.
[11:38am] sigblips: People are probably just randomly finding it in the Android stores.
[11:39am] jrseti_: I got a response from Francis. The plan is to wait till setilive starts up, then craft a letter to all setiquest Explorer users transitioning them over to SETILive.
[11:40am] MichaelMor: Good plan
[11:40am] jrseti_: He has a list of 9000 emails
[11:40am] sigblips: Wow!
[11:41am] sigblips: That is more than twice the number of registered setiQuest forum members.
[11:42am] jrseti_: He wants to be sure that they do not consider the email to be spam, so he is going to craft something useful to send to tem.
[11:42am] jrseti_: "them"
[11:42am] MichaelMor: Always a good theory
[11:43am] sigblips: That many people should give SETI Live! a nice jump start.
[11:43am] jrseti_: yes
[11:43am] jrseti_: We'll call it the "Francis Bump"
[11:43am] MichaelMor: Oh dear. Will we?
[11:44am] MichaelMor: :)
[11:44am] sigblips: Just don't connect the jumper cables backwards! (:
[11:44am] jrseti_: On second thought - maybe not. The term could be a medical condition.
[11:45am] jrseti_: 4) We need further discussion of the setiQuest goals.
[11:45am] jrseti_: Last week I was tasked with getting the SETI perspective of the desired setiQuest goals
[11:46am] jrseti_: We would like setiQuest to be the following:
[11:46am] jrseti_: A place for the community to share thoughts and ideas about how SETI looks for signals.
[11:47am] jrseti_: 2) A place to make publicly available our source code and documentation
[11:47am] jrseti_: 3) A conduit to the SETILive project.
[11:48am] jrseti_: That is it, I think
[11:48am] jrseti_: Thoughts?
[11:49am] MichaelMor: So, no active actual project
[11:49am] MichaelMor: and no data?
[11:51am] jrseti_: The data aspect will be directed to SETILive. They plan on making the waterfall data publicly available and will support discussion about the data
[11:51am] jrseti_: They plan on having part of their forum dedicated to data discussions
[11:53am] sigblips: The setiQuest forum can also play an overflow role for things that pop up in SETI Live! but don't quite fit their charter.
[11:53am] jrseti_: Yes.
[11:53am] MichaelMor: True
[11:54am] jrseti_: About data: I think Sigblips found another setidata dataset that has not yet been made public.
[11:54am] sigblips: Yes I have. They are called the "lost pulsar datasets."
[11:55am] jrseti_: Good name
[11:55am] jrseti_: Is it just one set?
[11:55am] MichaelMor: Sounds like a band name
[11:56am] sigblips: There are 11 of them and I'm still trying to track down some background information on them.
[11:56am] jrseti_: great.
[11:57am] jrseti_: Next week will be a big week. SETILive going live, I'll be glues to my monitor making sure it runs OK from my side of the process
[11:58am] sigblips: Let's see what dirt I can dig up on the lost pulsar datasets. I could release them this week.
[11:58am] moinkers: Are they 3 beam data sets?
[11:58am] jrseti_: Maybe we should wait several weeks. After SETILive is introduced. Then we can make a bigger splash on the website when we release the data
[11:59am] sigblips: Nope, just single beam.
[11:59am] jrseti_: The SETILive will eventually be 3 beams. But initially it is only 2 beams, one of our beamformers is broken.
[11:59am] sigblips: jrseti: OK, that is a good plan.
[12:00pm] jrseti_: It would be cool if we could make a gallery of signals from these datasets that people find.
[12:00pm] MichaelMor: Just got an email about press coverage of SetiLIVE. It should be quite a splash!
[12:00pm] jrseti_: That would be more useful than simply just making them available
[12:01pm] jrseti_: OK all, I have to go. Good meeting today!
[12:01pm] moinkers: I made that crude grid program to line up pictures
[12:01pm] sigblips: The tricky part is detecting the pulsars.
[12:01pm] jrseti_: moinkers: Can you put details of this on the forum?
[12:02pm] jrseti_: Sigblips: But, everything is easy with Baudline!
[12:03pm] moinkers: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/56988145/Signal_Madness-e.zip if you are on windows that should work
[12:03pm] jrseti_: gotta go. Bye!
[12:03pm] sigblips: Not pulsars. They are extremely weak and difficult to detect. I'm still amazed that they were discovered with 1960's technology.
[12:03pm] moinkers: I was just wondering if that is going down the right track or am I way off.
[12:03pm] jrseti_: moinkers: I'll boot up windows and take a look this week.
[12:04pm] sigblips: I'll post this meeting transcript to the forum. Bye all.
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[12:04pm] MichaelMor: kay then!
[12:04pm] sigblips: M-kay.
[12:04pm] khrm: bye
[12:04pm] MichaelMor: yep
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