[11:01am] jrseti_: Hello All! It is 11am California time.
[11:01am] jrseti_: See
[11:01am] jrseti_: http://setiquest.org/forum/topic/community-meeting-2012-05-15
[11:01am] gliese581c: Title: Community Meeting 2012-05-15 | setiQuest (at setiquest.org)
[11:01am] sigblips: Welcome quantum well dwellers.
[11:02am] jrseti_: Reminder - this is a 30 minute meeting
[11:02am] jrseti_: I am in a local Cafe - using their WiFi. Flaky internet at home.
[11:02am] sigblips: 4) New wiki page http://setiquest.org/wiki/index.php/Seti_programs . We should define what an observation is.
[11:02am] gliese581c: Title: Seti programs - setiquest wiki (at setiquest.org)
[11:03am] jrseti_: Lets discuss this first. Are you actually confused about what we mean, or do you just want to make it clearer?
[11:04am] sigblips: OK, 30 minutes, we've got to be quick. Make what clearer?
[11:04am] jrseti_: The definition of observation
[11:04am] jrseti_: In the context of the "Seti_programs" page
[11:05am] sigblips: Ohh, we're starting with #4. Yes, I understand the basic concept of an observation but I'm thinking we should define it so that it's clearer what sort of thing makes the list and what doesn't.
[11:06am] jrseti_: Yes, agreed. I always have problem with making such definitions clear. If you want to add that to the Seti_programs page, that would be a good place to start.
[11:06am] sigblips: For example was SETI Live doing an observation earlier this morning?
[11:07am] sigblips: Or it's not an observation unless it is "published" somewhere?
[11:07am] jrseti_: Yes, so there are 2 meanings. Maybe we should use "seti projects"
[11:08am] sigblips: Are the setiQuest data links observations? http://setiquest.org/wiki/index.php/SetiQuest_Data_Links
[11:08am] gliese581c: Title: SetiQuest Data Links - setiquest wiki (at setiquest.org)
[11:09am] jrseti_: Yes, those are observations.
[11:09am] jrseti_: Wait
[11:10am] jrseti_: Now you've confused me
[11:10am] sigblips: Project Phoenix was mentioned several times in the http://setiquest.org/wiki/index.php/Seti_programs list so the precedent is observations and not projects.
[11:10am] gliese581c: Title: Seti programs - setiquest wiki (at setiquest.org)
[11:10am] jrseti_: Yes, the setiData observations are under one "seti program"
[11:10am] jrseti_: or "seti project"
[11:10am] sigblips: Yes, this is confusing and that's why I suggested we define the term. (:
[11:11am] jrseti_: OK. The list is of "SETI Projects". Each "SETI Project" is comprized of one or more "observations".
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[11:12am] sigblips: OK that sounds good. Now what is the criteria for getting to be on the list?
[11:12am] jrseti_: I think the criteria is "Any SETI project". They can email setiquest@seti.org
[11:13am] sigblips: That is rather vague.
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[11:14am] jrseti_: Backyard SETI projects (does anybody do them), may be OK? Don't know. I think we should decide on a case-by-case basis.
[11:14am] jrseti_: We amy get some wierd ones.
[11:15am] sigblips: The current list seems to require that the observation is "published."
[11:15am] jrseti_: Hello Leash - just about ready to discuss MWWT
[11:15am] leash: Sounds good.
[11:15am] jrseti_: But we would want to expand it to list current ones that are in progress.
[11:16am] sigblips: OK, let's move on to the next topic. Let's take this observation definition to the Talk page: http://setiquest.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Seti_programs
[11:16am] jrseti_: OK.
[11:17am] jrseti_: Leash - we made a bit of progress on MWWT this week
[11:17am] leash: I've been reading the emails.
[11:17am] jrseti_: We got the attention of Eliot Gillum at Microsoft - he has done some MWWT work
[11:18am] jrseti_: He pointed us to a really good set of documentation pages I had not seen before.
[11:18am] jrseti_: http://www.worldwidetelescope.org/help/SupportHelp.aspx?Page=UserGuide
[11:18am] gliese581c: Title: WorldWide Telescope (at www.worldwidetelescope.org)
[11:19am] jrseti_: So we'll be reading this. We want to create a "Collection" withing MWWT that shows what SETI has observed and is currently observing.
[11:19am] jrseti_: But, it s confusing.
[11:20am] jrseti_: If we can get a decent looking "Collection" working in MWWT, we'll try to get Microsoft to include it along with their default installed Collections
[11:20am] leash: Yeah. Am I to understand the main problem is that your current web client is not universally compatible?
[11:20am] leash: As far as with different OS's, or just different browsers?
[11:20am] jrseti_: Leash - Yes, the web client seems to not allow viewing custom tours or collections
[11:21am] jrseti_: The web client is the same on Windows and MAC
[11:21am] sigblips: Is it written in Flash, Java, Javascript, or something else?
[11:21am] jrseti_: The full blown client only runs on Windows, not MAC
[11:22am] sigblips: So it is an executable application?
[11:22am] jrseti_: The web client is Silverlight.
[11:22am] jrseti_: The Windows Client is a .NET program
[11:22am] sigblips: Thanks.
[11:23am] jrseti_: Leash - we are going to try to keep this meeting to 30 minutes...
[11:23am] sigblips: Silverlight runs on Mac, that's what Netflix streaming using. There is also something called Moonlight on Linux.
[11:23am] leash: And Silverlight allows for all components of the tours and collections to work properly?
[11:23am] jrseti_: Yes
[11:23am] leash: jrseti- Okay. Well, email me with anything I can do, and I'll try to get it done.
[11:24am] jrseti_: Shall do
[11:25am] jrseti_: Next topic? 2 . Khrm made a SonATA SUSE distro. I have not been able to try it out yet!
[11:25am] jrseti_: I'll make a point of doing that this week
[11:25am] jrseti_: So, that is that one.
[11:26am] jrseti_: 3) Any website issues? I STILL do not have the broken link removed for the Glossary
[11:26am] sigblips: The test drive feature of SUSE Studio is pretty slick. Also one of the top spins has Java included so that is OK to do.
[11:26am] jrseti_: I'll let him know. That will make things easier
[11:27am] sigblips: He should include a snapshot of the SonATA source code and compiled executables too.
[11:27am] jrseti_: Maybe so, but it should all build no problem if he has it all correct
[11:28am] sigblips: My thinking is a Linux live-CD. Pop it in, reboot, and you can be running SonATA is minutes. No compilation or configuration required.
[11:29am] jrseti_: I guess he could do that. I'll ask him, that may be best. Good idea.
[11:29am] sigblips: Make it as simple as possible for someone to test drive. It should work in the 1 hour SUSE studio test drive window too.
[11:30am] sigblips: Quick question. Why are the ATA dishes pointed in different directions? http://setiquest.info/data/cam1
[11:30am] gliese581c: Title: SetiQuest Info Service (at setiquest.info)
[11:30am] jrseti_: I don't know what they are doing right now. i know Jane is using some of the antennas to do RFI scans
[11:31am] sigblips: How many dishes are currently operational?
[11:31am] jrseti_: 30+ at the moment, I think.
[11:32am] sigblips: Thanks.
[11:32am] jrseti_: It is weird pushing all this into 30 minutes.
[11:32am] sigblips: It was a lightning meeting!
[11:33am] jrseti_: Anything else?
[11:33am] sigblips: Same SETI channel, same SETI time, next week.
[11:33am] jrseti_: OK, thanks All!
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Sorry, I have my practical today as well as tommorrow. So, I was busy and I forgot about the meeting.
I have remove the bugs that I had written about in the forum (sudoers and included the sudo in metapackage). And ssh is working.Only one dhcp related bug remains.  A person have to uncheck the option "WRITE_HOSTNAME_TO_HOSTS" in network setting, ok it and the check again. I know the solution to above.  It is to keep it to No in dhcp file at /etc/sysconfig/network/ and assign a hostname in /etc/HOSTNAME.
After fixing and building a new release, I will build the SonATA on it.
I will fix it after 21st. By then I will have completed all of  my practicals.